And that's pretty much what I did. Earlonne Woods was released from San Quentin in November after his sentence was commuted by Governor Jerry Brown. [12] On October 19, 2021, co-hosts Poor and Woods released a book on the podcast, This Is Ear Hustle. So you can't wear blue, which is what they wear. Brown cited Woods' leadership in . By entering your email and clicking Sign Up, you're agreeing to let us send you customized marketing messages about us and our advertising partners. GROSS: Yeah. POOR: We can taste each other's food 'cause, you know, in prison you can't share food with people. And this time, they had something for me, which was the three-strike law. GROSS: And you basically just described your own situation when you were incarcerated because you got 31 to life for attempted second-degree robbery. GROSS: Well, why don't we take a short break here, and then we'll talk some more? In November 2018, California Governor Jerry Brown commuted Earlonne's sentence after 21 years of . When Earlonne was incarcerated in San Quentin, he and Nigel Poor started the podcast Ear Hustle. Tyler was sent to live with extended family. And on their way back to the auntie's house, they were pulled over by Long Beach Police Department - two officers. The podcast title, Ear Hustle, is prison slang for eavesdropping or being nosy. What are some of the ways you think you've changed over the years? It's about a writer whose friend and former mentor kills himself. And the assumption is that what you did at that moment is what you are today even though it's five years, 10 years, 20, 30 years later. Since the podcasts launch in 2017, its been downloaded, announcing the commutation, the governor echoed that thought, saying Woods has clearly shown that he is no longer the man he was when he committed this crime.. Why we living like we don't care - because this is somehow how we grew up and how - since as early teenager we've been living in the streets, in the gangs. Earlonne was born in 1972, in the United States. E WOODS: Hey - so I always go over to the L - I call them L7s. He also founded CHOOSE1, which aims to repeal the California Three . I'm Terry Gross. Ive been taking showers for like 20 years.. "When. The victims of a crime are faceless. My guests are Earlonne Woods and Nigel Poor, the co-creators of Ear Hustle, a podcast featuring their interviews with men incarcerated in San Quentin. So I've technically only been free 20 years in my life, and, since I was 17, I've been free maybe three years all together. Earlonne still co-hosts the show alongside Nigel. Earlonne continues to co-host the show with Nigel. Earlonnes average salary is $61,244 per year. In 2018, California governor Jerry Brown commuted Earlonne Woods' sentence, citing Ear Hustle as a significant contributor to his reformation as an American citizen. And so when people listen to this story, that's what I want them to take away, that here's this person who is in a difficult situation. And the captain comes in. Earlonne continues to co-host the show with Nigel. I mean POOR: No, we're not allowed. I'm fine working with him now. But we knew that, you know, it's traditional for the governor to do these commutations right before Thanksgiving. What was your reaction when you found out? Our technical director and engineer is Audrey Bentham. And he understood how to diffuse a situation. GROSS: A job because you thought it was, like, your only source of income? GROSS: So this gets back to something you were just saying. E WOODS: (Laughter) Not no time soon, no. [3], Woods completed his General Educational Development in prison, as well as vocational courses such as auto mechanics. I pretty much raised Tyler from '95 to '97, when I got arrested. I'd rather not know. E WOODS: I think - I was just tripping off - he was just peeling back one of the Beatles POOR: Oh, yeah. Therefore, it is not known if Earlonne is single, dating, or married. It's something. You know, he was - you know, I even - I'm talking to him all the time. So you become accustomed to that lifestyle. E WOODS: So on November 19, Tyler and his auntie and some other lady went to 7-Eleven to get a pack of cigarettes. You guys are killing me (laughter). His mother was a postal worker and his father was an unemployed alcoholic, who Woods described as violent and distant. I don't know. But the law don't see your rehabilitation. Earlonne still co-hosts the show alongside Nigel. And that surprised me greatly. And they say Tyler just took off running. TREVOR WOODS: You know, so Tyler was out there trying to grow up on his own, trying to be something that he didn't know nothing about. Earlonne is busy reporting on re-entry stories and daily life for originally incarcerated people, while also documenting his own experiences. How do you survive? He commuted my sentence to be released forthwith, immediately, right now, its time to go, time to walk out that gate, he added, laughing. [3][4] In 1997, at the age of 25, he was arrested for attempted second degree robbery. No. So now we just have the opportunity to travel together, to do something like this together. GROSS: Are you going to go back and visit him? No, and I laugh because had Governor Brown probably not been the governor, I would still have 10 years of my sentence left. And so (laughter) it was just incredible. I find it invigorating. NPR transcripts are created on a rush deadline by an NPR contractor. Woods helped create Ear Hustle while incarcerated at San Quentin State Prison. But you look back, and you're looking at it like, I've wasted, like - I can say right now, I'm 47 years old. You know, they playing with guns or whatever have you. And y'all having these intimate conversations about, you know, why you went down this path or what it was like being a survivor, what it was like being this. Woods' sentence was recently commuted, but the two continue to tell stories of life. So how do you keep going? It was a restorative justice group. GROSS: And you thanked him for doing it. The two established a rapport,[6] and Poor proposed the idea of creating a podcast to Woods, who had previously not known what a podcast was. And that's the only way of life that you're accustomed to 'cause that's all you see. GROSS: OK, so that was a little more than five years ago that Tyler was killed. Earlonne Woods and Nigel Poor started the podcast Ear Hustle when Woods was a prisoner in San Quentin. I don't (laughter) take them for granted. But yeah, I can't. You may be a changed individual, all the way changed, would never commit another crime. I realized that he had a really intense work ethic that matched my own and that we just really got along. We know because they did a whole episode on getting parole. He was hired to continue co-hosting and producing the podcast after his release. They're the co-hosts and co-producers of the podcast Ear Hustle, which features interviews with men incarcerated in San Quentin about their daily lives and their personal stories. I'm not doing this. And I have a lot of friends that's in prison that has 200 years, 300 years to life for maybe attempted second-degree robbery. We don't really do stories about people's crimes at all. E WOODS: Well, me growing up the way I grew up, I grew up in a lifestyle where I was young when I got into selling drugs, and I was - I was real young. Wake up to the day's most important news. He works as a full-time producer, co-host, and co-creator of Ear Hustle at PRX alongside Nigel Poor. One is that you're going to get killed, and the other is that you'll eventually go to jail. The show was still challenging to create, in part because none of the three producers had a background in audio production, but also because of prison administration red tape. And I spend a lot of time in there. Woods was involved in an attempted robbery in 1997, when he was in his 20s. E WOODS: I think the mentality is more of crime to you is a job. I told him that constantly. You know that it could be a possibility, but it's a possibility that you've seen pretty much your whole life, you know? Earlonne Woods is the co-creator, co-host, and co-producer of Ear Hustle (PRX & Radiotopia). POOR: Well, I would like to see more programs created that allow people inside and outside to work together as colleagues. He also founded CHOOSE1, which aims to repeal the California . You have to wear the same clothes all the time. Then she started doing interviews, and then they started working together co-producing a radio show and then the podcast. POOR: I don't ask unless it comes up as part of the story. He works as a full-time producer, co-host, and co-creator of Ear Hustle at PRX alongside Nigel Poor. Earlonnes sentence was recently commuted, but the two proceed to tell stories of life behind bars. And I was - yeah, I was definitely nervous. GROSS: And that was because - you got such a long sentence because one crime had you convicted on two counts, so that counted as two strikes. Earlonne Woods is a popular American podcaster. [9][7] Ear Hustle was the first podcast entirely recorded and produced inside a prison. I love it. - like, was with him pretty much every day. 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I'd still be sitting in San Quentin in a cell with my brother. Like, I take you as the man you are in front of me. I actually oddly enjoy being in there. So I think I did what, pretty much, my community did that was around me. Earlonne, tell us a little more about what happened to Tyler, how he was killed. When he was nine, Woods lifted up a faulty railroad crossing gate to allow cars to pass. After a break, we'll hear and talk about excerpts of two episodes of Ear Hustle, one about a death that was devastating for Earlonne, the other about an interview that raised serious ethical questions for Nigel. He went up there. Ear Hustle is a non-fiction podcast about prison life and life after incarceration created by Earlonne Woods and Antwan Williams, both formerly incarcerated, and Nigel Poor, an artist who volunteers at San Quentin State Prison. So it's been a real eye-opener for me. Like, what was all this for? An intimate view into the life and challenges of an asperger's spouse.It seems some marriages are so wonderfully stellar you have to look away or be blinded. But the things that you do in your past do add dimension to who you are in this moment. And it might help you. It was transformational symposiums. In an op-ed for the Los Angeles Times, Lexi Mainland wrote "The runaway hit Ear Hustle never takes a broad look at criminal justice policy or employs Voice of God narration. Don't be out there doing no robberies, none of that stuff. Since the podcasts launch in 2017, its been downloaded millions of times, featured in media outlets from NPR to The New York Times, and made several best of podcast rankings. And they - and I received 31 years to life. Earlonne Woods: Number one. This lady - her name was Claire. But after you recorded that interview, you found out something about him and decided, like, you could not play that interview unless you asked him another question. He and Nigel are also the authors of This Is Ear Hustle: Unflinching Stories of Everyday Prison Life, a book that was inspired by the podcast and released by Crown/Random House. Earlonne Woods is the co-creator, co-host, and co-producer of Ear Hustle (PRX & Radiotopia). Hae-soo married his non-celebrity bride on January 14, 2019, according to sources. It didn't work out, unfortunately. But I'd say a lot of people, particularly in law enforcement, want to look at the crime only, and that's really the big debate. Earlonne was both co-host and inmate. He likes to keep his personal life private hence Earlonne has not mentioned any details concerning his marital status. Is that OK? But he was released in November after his sentence was commuted by California Governor Jerry Brown. Earlonne became busy reporting on re-entry stories and daily life for originally incarcerated people, while also documenting his own experiences. E WOODS: So I think that goes into, like, what they call politics in prison and where, you know, you may have certain prisons that it matters what you're in prison for like - and it's a difference on a race level. He had just became a paramedic or something. I think the scope of the number of people that could possibly listen to this, I'm just really nervous about that. So, Nigel, when you decided you wanted to start, like, a interview series that started on KALW - the public - one of the public radio stations in San Francisco, and then it became a podcast - you wanted a co-host and co-producer who was incarcerated in San Quentin. 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[5] He served his last seven years at San Quentin. Earlonne is busy reporting on re-entry stories and daily life for people who were previously incarcerated, as well as documenting his own experiences. He is 5 feet 7 inches tall ( Approx1.7 m). Earlonne Woods is co-creator, co-producer and co-host of Ear Hustle from Radiotopia. [7] Co-creators Woods and Antwan Williams were inmates at San Quentin State Prison for the first three seasons of the show. Ear Hustle co-hosted by Woods and Nigel Poor, an artist and volunteer at San Quentin interviews men in the prison about their lives there. He running with these hard heads. So we're going to strike you out this time. Here you guys are, poking and - poking and prodding. It's - it's - I think being in a position to step away from it all and look back and say, man, I was on something else. This piece has been updated with news of Woods hiring onto the podcast team. GROSS: To stay sane in a situation like that. They grow up literally., In Browns letter announcing the commutation, the governor echoed that thought, saying Woods has clearly shown that he is no longer the man he was when he committed this crime., He has set a positive example, Brown wrote. And I got into this group. And I'm like - I'm telling my son, son, look. But very quickly, when we started talking about photography - I was teaching a history of photography class - that kind of melted away. You're able to go POOR: We're able to go out. But of course when someone's in prison and the other person's not, there's so many things you can't do. And then what worries me is, like, so people will leave with this very, like, I love this guy. I felt like in Earlonne I found a true professional colleague. He is a man of average height. And, you know, we was clowning on the phone. Let me see why you're here. And, Earlonne, again, I want to thank - I want to congratulate you again for your new freedom. Is he a good co-host? I have all the different people that I talk to as I work my way down to the media lab. Why am I doing this? You know, he calls me. [9], In a Rolling Stone article about the show, Tana Ganeva called it "a fascinating, harrowing and also deeply entertaining look into life on the inside that runs the full gamut of emotions. Earlonne Woods is the cocreator, coproducer, and cohost of the Pulitzer-nominated podcast Ear Hustle. 2023 BuzzFeed, Inc. All rights reserved. He had served 21 years of a 31-years-to-life sentence. It's like - I think they're not under the constraints or the pressures to not accept people. Like, all of a sudden, you know POOR: We'll be like regular colleagues. I'm doing that. Poor, a professor of photography at CSU Sacramento, was volunteering with the Prison University Project at San Quentin State Prison when she met Woods, who was serving a 31-year-to-life sentence. You're more looking at what you're getting out of the situation. And your brother is still in San Quentin. Jerry Brown (D) has commuted the prison sentence of Earlonne Woods, whose hit podcast Ear Hustle explores life inside San Quentin State Prison. She first started working at San Quentin in 2011 as a volunteer in the Prison University Project, teaching the history of photography. SHAPIRO: Earlonne Woods is 47. And I mean, we just knew that was the call. GROSS: And, Earlonne, I look forward to your interviews with people who, like you, are transitioning back into society from prison. GROSS: Earlonne, what's the custom among men in San Quentin? But you may have the African-Americans who go to prison and they're at certain places and you don't get that question. And Trevor, your brother, speaks first. explores life inside San Quentin State Prison. As of now, he works as a full-time producer, co-host, and co-creator of Ear Hustle at PRX alongside Nigel Poor. [6] While in San Quentin, Woods was unpaid for his work on Ear Hustle, though fans would often send him money. I mean, there's two likely outcomes if you're robbing drug dealers. The prison also went on lockdown during production, halting work and requiring additional administrative steps to both create and release the audio. "[15], The New Yorker's Sarah Larson said the show "might be the best new podcast Ive heard this year" and described it as being "about the creativity required to live a satisfying lifeor even a sane lifein prison, and is itself a product of that creativity. Earlonne became preoccupied with reporting on re-entry stories and daily life for people who had previously been incarcerated, as well as documenting his own experiences. And I - I observed Earlonne a lot. So I'm trying to like - I'm trying to partner with you here. GROSS: And Nigel, just as a person who's constantly interacting with inmates at San Quentin, do you want to know what they're incarcerated for, what crime they were convicted of? Author, Project Leader of CHOOSE1 Opinions are my own linktr.ee/Earlonnewoods Posts Reels Videos Tagged Show More Posts from earlonnewoods SHAPIRO: When you said goodbye to him, were you crying? GROSS: This is FRESH AIR. And I was paroled when I was 23, about to turn 24. After 21 years in prison, Governor Brown the great governor of California decided that I served enough time, Woods said in the latest episode of Ear Hustle. Earlonne Woods is the co-creator, co-host, and co-producer of Ear Hustle (PRX & Radiotopia). T WOODS: You know, he was ripping and running with the gangs. Earlonne Woods annual salary is $61,244 on average. GROSS: Earlonne, how did you learn how to keep your calm and live in the kind of confined situation you were in during the more than two decades that you were incarcerated? POOR: I know. And you really get a better understanding of your impact that you've personally had on people in society. Earlonne Woods was born and raised in South Central Los Angeles. And then when I got out, I hadn't put any skill sets together, you know? Vice President . I don't know if it's a lake. You feel invincible in some ways. He is 5 feet 7 inches tall ( Approx1.7 m). And that was one of the things that I appreciated about Jerry Brown - especially everything he said in that clip that you played is the way people inside think. Like, in the county jail, I was like, OK, I'm done with this side of life because even though our philosophy growing up was for death though - you know, meaning I'd rather be carried by six than judged by 12 - that was just the philosophy we had growing up, you know? Woods said that the show chose the topic of cellmates for its first episode to ensure the show was relatable, since most people can relate to having a bad roommate. While incarcerated, he received his GED, attended Coastline Community College, and completed many vocational programs. Jerry Brown (D) has commuted the prison sentence of Earlonne Woods, whose hit podcast Ear Hustle explores life inside San Quentin State Prison. When asked earlier this year what was the first thing he would do if he got out, Woods said, Take a bath. HuffPost visited Woods at San Quentin earlier this year to discuss why he created the podcast. All rights reserved. I get to see how they express love and tenderness and fear and frustration and how they posture and what's behind that. They searched Tyler, and then they ran his name. Earlonne Woods was born in the United States in 1972. Should we recognize the change, or once you did the act, that's who you are - your essence, your identity - and never to be considered? Woods learned of his commutation the day before Thanksgiving. Los Angeles, CA. Does that mean we're self-absorbed? And so I want to play the part where you return to ask him that difficult question. This is FRESH AIR. While incarcerated, he received his GED, attended Coastline Community College, and completed many vocational programs. Co-founded by San Francisco Bay Area artist Nigel Poor alongside Earlonne Woods and Antwan Williams who were incarcerated at the time the podcast now tells stories from both inside prison and from the outside, post-incarceration. I'm not doing that. He was sentenced to 31 years to life for attempted robbery in 1999. SHAPIRO: That's Earlonne Woods from the podcast "Ear Hustle." Im thinking about my mama, shes 70. "[8] In particular, she praised Williams' "evocative, pitch-perfect sound design". Even though you can't do nothing about your past, you just feel embarrassed about even going down that route, even victimizing anybody. Why didn't you invite me (laughter)? And you start thinking differently, you know? He has the age of 49. Woods, 47, was recently released from San Quentin State Prison after California Gov. E WOODS: It is - they see something that I can't see. Let's get back to my interview with Earlonne Woods and Nigel Poor, the creators and hosts of the podcast Ear Hustle, featuring interviews with prisoners in San Quentin about their lives and what it's like to be incarcerated. You know, when I was out for the two years 10 months, I raised Tyler, you know? With grace and humor they walk through what life is really like behind bars, showing the humanity and depth of those they meet inside." --Catherine Burns, artistic director, The Moth "I listen to Ear . [16], Alfred I. duPontColumbia University Award, "Immigrants facing deportation, drug offenders and a former state lawmaker receive pardons from Gov. POOR: So I'm just going to be very blunt with you. GROSS: So something I found really interesting is that the group that is multicultural and not segregated by race or ethnicity is the group that's into, like - the nerds, the group that are into, like, sci-fi fantasy and stuff like that. There's a story you did about how people like you from the outside who come in to volunteer - because you started at San Quentin volunteering teaching photography before you started doing the podcast Ear Hustle. POOR: I'm so glad you asked about this. And it would give the people inside the opportunity to stretch themselves intellectually and emotionally, so just creating more of a connection. And I just said, when you come back, you're going to be almost a free man. We called up Nigel Poor today to ask her about it, and she said that when they got the news yesterday, they were in the middle of making an episode. Once the details concerning Earlonnes marital status are available we shall update. And I want to play what he said to you. Can I ask how your relationship is changing now that you're both outside? For Walter "Earlonne" Woods, the path to freedom was podcasting. I was a clerk. GROSS: My guests are Nigel Poor and Earlonne Woods, the creators and hosts of the podcast Ear Hustle about life inside San Quentin Prison. This text may not be in its final form and may be updated or revised in the future. You have to go through a lot of E WOODS: Yeah, it's a lot of stuff you have to go through. Not one bit, you know? [7] They recruited fellow inmates Antwan Williams as the show's sound designer,[8] and submitted their idea for a podcast to a contest hosted by Radiotopia. There's a man that I worked with for quite a while that I was very fond of. When he was 15, he committed his first robbery alongside his brother, who had transitioned from selling drugs to robbing drug dealers. So I still had a 17-year-old mentality. Which is what they wear by Governor Jerry Brown commuted earlonne & # x27 ; leadership in real! 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